MINUTES
OF THE HARDYSTON TOWNSHIP PLANNING BOARD MEETING HELD OCTOBER
19, 2000
STATEMENT
OF COMPLIANCE: Pursuant to the Open Public Meetings
Act, Chapter 231, P.L. 1975 adequate notice as defined in
Section 3D of Chapter 231 P.L. 1975 has been made to the
New Jersey Herald and is also posted on the bulletin board
at the Hardyston Township Municipal Building.
ROLL
CALL:
Ken
Worflar - Excused
Leslie Hamilton - Present
Maribeth Boffa - Present
Randy Roof - Excused
William Castiglione - Present
Thomas Zygmunt - Present
Robert Neubig - Present
John Eskilson - Present
Greg Eisenecker - Present
Ed Frisbie - Present
Ed Zinck - Present
APPLICATIONS:
Sussex
National Development- Block 16, Lots 1, 1.03, 1.05, 1.07,
6.02, 8.02 and Block 17, Lots 2 and 12.01 - PB-9-00-4: Mr.
Michael Hiller of National Evaluation Services was present
to give testimony. Mr. Hiller was sworn in. He gave his
qualifications and they were accepted by the Board.
Mr.
Hiller provided a report relative to the real estate, tax
revenue impact and services impact that the proposed development
would have on the municipality.
He gave
testimony relative to information contained in the report.
He stated that based on the analysis, the development would
have a positive net tax impact on the municipality.
An analysis
was done with respect to the actual number of students within
the development in school currently. The 240 completed homes
accounted for 33 students or 3% of the total number of students
in the Township. The number of students per home is .13
students per home. The average throughout the township represents
.44 student per home. If the ratio is used for the total
build out, the development will generate 199 students.
Based
on the analysis, it was Mr. Hiller's testimony that the
build-out will result in a positive tax benefit to the school,
as the anticipated tax revenue generated from the development
would exceed the cost of education for the anticipated students
by $500,000 per year.
The
meeting was opened to questions from Board members. Mr.
Hiller advised that this calculation was done based on current
values, but he felt that the value of the homes in the development
would grow in value, particularly when the rest of the anticipated
development, golf, commercial and hotels, build out, the
development will become more exclusive and valuable, thus
generating more tax base. The analysis also does not include
the tax benefits of any of the proposed commercial development
under the plan.
The
witnesses testimony was opened to the public for questions.
Mr. Gary Kiss came forward and asked the witness what is
the flavor of the housing that he used to generate the study,
what type of houses were used, condos, townhouses or single
family. Townhouses and condominums currently represent 70%
of the total build-out currently. 40% of the homes are patio
or single-family homes. The prices of the single family
homes are
very high and not affordable for families and do not often
attract families since the lots are small and often on the
golf course.
Mr.
Murphy advised the Board that they have brought Mr. Ketchell
back who was their hydrological expert who wanted to bring
the Board additional testimony relative to their water test
results. He advised that they did a number of monitoring
tests when they did the pumping. Monitoring data from area
wells was described by Mr. Ketchell.
Based
on the data, they feel that the well is good to produce
600 gallons per minute without significant impact to other
area wells. He advised what the next steps that needed to
be taken in order to get their permits. The projected need
for gallons per day for the project is in line with what
is produced by the well. It was noted that the proposed
well will be used for irrigation at a much lower rate. Based
on the data however, this test proves that the acquifer
has significant water to provide for the development. Mr.
Mulvhill advised that these tests were done in order to
get a well permit for the irrigation well, but due to the
timing of the test, it was pertinent information to provide
to the Board with respect to the available water supply
to serve the proposed development.
The
witnesses testimony was opened to the public for questions
related to the witnesses testimony. Mr. Kiss stated that
he did not agree with Mr. Kechell's testimony relative to
the testing done on his well. He indicated that while the
monitoring was done initially, there was no follow-up monitoring
and they did not come back to cap the well.
Mr.
Ketchell responded that all monitoring was followed up on
to gather results.
There
were no further questions of the witness.
John
Lehman, P.E., came forward to give testimony. Mr. Murphy
advised that Mr. Lehman had prepared a response report to
Mr. Guerin's September 26, 2000 report. He indicated that
there were three professional meetings which took place
since the last meeting where many of the issues contained
in the Board professional reports have been resolved. Mr.
Lehman went over Mr. Guerin's report and his response report
simultaneously.
With
respect to the proposed third golf course and the fact that
it would traverse the municipal boundary into Vernon, Mr.
Lehman advised that they have to go to the Vernon Board
to seek approval. Mr. Collins noted that the Board may want
to impose a condition that requires that the applicant provide
a sketch showing an alternate plan for the area that includes
a golf area that is in connection with the existing courses,
in the event that they are unable to obtain approval from
Vernon, as presently the area is not zoned for golf. The
applicant agreed to comply.
Mr.
Lehman advised that in the alternative to providing individual
sidewalks, they are proposing a hiking trail that goes along
the perimeter of complex. Mr. Mulvihill advised that he
felt that the trail would connect the entire community.
They feel that it is more in keeping with the natural flavor
of the openness of the development. They advised that they
plan to pave some of it, but other parts will be wood chips.
Mr. Lehman advised that the surface of the hiking trail
according to ADA standards can be paved or wood chipped.
Mr.
Collins gave direction to the Board with respect to RSIS
and sidewalk provisions. He advised that while Crystal Springs
I was not subject to RSIS standards, Crystal Springs II
is. He gave the board advice relative to diminimus waivers.
After
discussion the concept of accepting the hiking trail in
lieu of standard sidewalks, the Board considered requiring
that the hiking trail be a paved surface in areas found
to be appropriate by the Board and their professionals,
particularly in high traffic areas between the clubhouse
area and the housing on the north end of the project up
to the park area.
The
question of the trail being private/public was discussed.
Initially the trail would be private, but if ever it could
be connected to Interwest, then it would probably be public,
but still subjective to the association rules.
It was
concluded that the hiking trail was acceptable with the
paving in the areas noted.
Mr.
Lehman gave information relative to the fact that they have
eliminated 40+ houses originally proposed along the ridge
in the northern portion of the project. He further noted
that they are able to provide sewer to 1530 units within
the two projects Crystal Springs I and Crystal Springs II.
Under this scenerio, Crystal Springs I has a build out of
942 and Crystal SpringsII has a build out of 588. If any
unit count change is contemplated, updates on both projects
have to be submitted so that the total never exceeds 1530
overall. This amount of housing coupled with the proposed
commercial development will not exceed the allocation available
to the developer.
Mr.
Lehman continued to review his response report to Mr. Guerin's
report. He gave testimony relative to their proposed phasing
plan, based on market conditions, but they could vary depending
on the economy. They are seeking a 15 year approval in order
to complete the project.
The
Board was given the opportunity to ask questions of the
witness.
Ms.
Hamilton asked about senior citizen housing. Mr. Mulvihill
advised that they were willing to age restrict 100 units
to 55 and over at the 250 unit count. The area were these
homes will be located will not be strictly limited at this
time. The applicant will come back to clarify what pod of
development will be age restricted.
The
questioning period was opened to the public. Jim Vecchio
came forward and expressed his concern that curbs should
be made to be required. Mr. Collins advised that curbing
is still required where applicable under RSIS standards.
Bruce
Patti came forward and asked when they planned to start
residential construction on the north side and the commercial
on the north side. Mr. Mulvihill advised that the commercial
retail area would be first. He anticipated possibly coming
before the Board with commercial construction plans within
the next six months. The first conference center to be built
will be the Crystal Springs I portion of the project. The
other conference centers would not be proposed to be built
for 5 to 10 years.
Mr.
Patti noted that he has a horse training facility adjacent
to the proposed development. He had concerns that the golf
activity would effect his property in view of the sensitive
nature of his horses. Mr. Mulvihill said the nearest golf
hole is 250 feet from the property line and 1000 feet from
the proposed conference center.
Mr.
Collins recapped potential conditions that the Board may
consider. He indicated that Bob Guerin's and Janice Talley's
final review reports on the last submitted revised plan
as reflected through Mr. Lehman's response letter be either
made conditions of a resolution, or in the alternative if
the Board feels comfortable voting tonight.
Mr.
Guerin stated that he could prepare a report ready for next
week's meeting, however, he did not anticipate that any
issues raised couldn't be made conditions of the approval
if the Board were so inclined to vote tonight. It was concluded
that Mr. Guerin will provide a final report for the special
meeting scheduled for November 6, 200 at 6:00 p.m. It was
concluded that the hearing of the application would conclude
at the proposed November 6, 2000 special meeting and if
appropriate a vote would be taken at that time. In preparation
of a potential decision, Mr. Collins will prepare a draft
resolution based on the testimony offered so far. A motion
was made by Mr. Neubig and seconded by Mrs. Boffa to adjourn
the hearing to the November 6, 2000 meeting to be held at
6:00 p.m. at the Hardyston Township
Municipal Building without further notice to the public.
All were in favor. The matter was carried.
PUBLIC
PARTICIPATION:
The
meeting was opened to the public. There was no public participation.
The meeting was closed to the public.
ADJOURNMENT:
Having
no further business, a motion was made by Mr. Neubig and
seconded by Mrs. Boffa to adjourn the meeting. All were
in favor. Motion was carried. Meeting was adjourned.
Minutes
prepared by:
Marianne
Smith